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FrediFizzx
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Which Fidelity account to park $20K until year end?

"Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Evojeesus wrote:
On Jul 15, 4:25 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Evojeesus wrote:

Yes, but is it probable equally good return will happen in the
future,
and why? During the last 100 years humanity had to face only two
large
problems (the two world wars) - I have a feeling we'll be facing
more
and bigger problems in the future as the planet is getting too
small
for us.

Well, that was the argument put forth by the Club of Rome in the
1970s
when they claimed there were limits to growth.

Well, now it starts to be obvious, starting from liquid fuel & food
shortages, loss of biodiversity, land-cover change, rising costs
for
commodities, probable climate change etc.

The Sun generates billions of times more power than we can ever
use on
Earth.

Sure, but if we screw up the climate before harnessing the Sun the
costs will be ginormous. The climate-change is not going to be
reversible,

Of course the climate change is reversible. For example, a limited
nuclear war will kick up so much dirt and debris into the
stratosphere as to cancel out the greenhouse effect and turn global
warming into global cooling.

*Any* change can be reversed if you're willing to expend enough
energy to do it. And between fission and fusion, we've got the
energy.

Mama nature does also. Is Jellystone going to blow? ;-) Well,
eventually it probably will. Will climate matter much then after a
super-volcano? But for sure we need to stop burnin' so much stuff in
the meantime. Gotta have that fire, man.

Fred

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Evojeesus
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Which Fidelity account to park $20K until year end?

On Jul 16, 2:12 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:

Evojeesus wrote:

Sure, but if we screw up the climate before harnessing the Sun the
costs will be ginormous. The climate-change is not going to be
reversible,

Of course the climate change is reversible. For example, a limited
nuclear war will kick up so much dirt and debris into the stratosphere
as to cancel out the greenhouse effect and turn global warming into
global cooling.

That does not return us to our previous climate but to some other type
of climate. We might get quick sea-level rise - it's not a given at
all that a global cooling will result in quick sea-level drop. It's
much quicker to remove mass from ice-sheets than to put it back
there.

Quote:

*Any* change can be reversed if you're willing to expend enough energy
to do it. And between fission and fusion, we've got the energy.

You're going to run into trouble due to entropy. Try exploding a stick
of dynamite in a China-vase and then to reverse the situation. If you
can do it, nice, but you cannot do it in a closed system so in the end
everything will be the same again (due to the energy you had to use).

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Evojeesus
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Which Fidelity account to park $20K until year end?

On Jul 16, 6:39 pm, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:

Evojeesus wrote:
On Jul 16, 2:12 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
*Any* change can be reversed if you're willing to expend enough energy
to do it. And between fission and fusion, we've got the energy.

You're going to run into trouble due to entropy. Try exploding a stick
of dynamite in a China-vase and then to reverse the situation. If you
can do it, nice, but you cannot do it in a closed system so in the end
everything will be the same again (due to the energy you had to use).

As I've already explained to you once already, the planet Earth is not a
closed system. We demonstrate that, every time we eat food or burn
fossil fuel. That energy didn't come from an intrinsic source. It came
from the Sun.

Yeah, but once you fill the atmosphere with greenhouse gases or change
the sea-level it will be much more difficult to reverse the situation.
We can try to mitigate the climate-change by using some drastic new
large-scale technology (like thermonuclear war), but we cannot exactly
backtrack our steps climatewise as the system does not allow it.

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Steven L.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: Which Fidelity account to park $20K until year end?

Evojeesus wrote:

Quote:

On Jul 16, 2:12 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
*Any* change can be reversed if you're willing to expend enough energy
to do it. And between fission and fusion, we've got the energy.

You're going to run into trouble due to entropy. Try exploding a stick
of dynamite in a China-vase and then to reverse the situation. If you
can do it, nice, but you cannot do it in a closed system so in the end
everything will be the same again (due to the energy you had to use).

As I've already explained to you once already, the planet Earth is not a
closed system. We demonstrate that, every time we eat food or burn
fossil fuel. That energy didn't come from an intrinsic source. It came
from the Sun.

--
Steven L.
Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

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